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Topic posted Aug 17, 07 on baghdad2007

Crises in Iraq: what is the way forward?
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Posted Oct 10, 07 by NewMindZ

Peace and blessing be upon all of you,
a very interresting question and it is very good that our women are also interrested in politics.
thank you very much for your question.

the answer seams pretty obvious, each soldier must be in his own country, in other worlds:
any soldier working outside his country is a TERRORIST.

i think we all agreed on this one, but the other side of the story is more complicated (or they want to made it more complicated for us). they want to make is complex so we may have trouble to see throug thier lies and dirty work.

lest have a breif little look on what was going on. first, do you know that most (maybe all) arabs countries sell thier oil/gas only in dollars? in other they only sell to you if you buy american money. this is one of the main reason why dollars is directly related to oil/gas and it is very important for america to FORCE nations to use its money. more use of american money = more power to american money.
- Saddam had signed contracts with france to sell oil/gas with Euro! since then Iraq has signed its own assassination.
Let me expend this point (this is a future scenario), if america lets Iraq sell his oil/gas with any money he wants, so then more arab countries will do the same, then the Dollar will lose its power. after this, america will be like Germany after the WW2. in other words, the $ will be very sheap, and no value at all.the paper of $ will be more valuable then the $ it self.
here is the documentary to watch: The Iraq Conspiracy

- Also to consider, Saddam was a very strong and intelligent man, he was very well protected, it was very hard for america to get rid of him, thats why the war was the only solution for america.But, after that, to be sure of the results of the new Iraqi goverment, america selects the people that are right for goverment. Of course the america claim that they dont have anything to do with the selection of the Iraqi goverment, but the question is: the govermnet (of Saddam) which doesnt suits the west, they got rid of it, so do you think america will be satisfied with an other opposing Iraqi goverment?
Since this, america/england had signed this Terrorist goverment contracts to leave thier armies in Iraq. in our days, britain (official speach) is, we are NOT in iraq because of WMD, but because thier goverment had signed contract with us to leave our troups in Iraq.

- more of this, america today had built officially 4 bases (non-officially 6 bases), so they say the bases we made are just to take care of our soldiers   more...
Posted Aug 18, 07 by baghdad2007

Sis Mizztatchipen, the verses you quoted regarding Iraq and Syria left me with immense shock and bewilderment! How incredible!
Brother Ashraf, I agree with your analysis. A weak Iraq, a partitioned Iraq, will benefit many other than Iraqis themselves. Yes, Saudis in particular are worried about their Shia population in the east. They are also increasingly anxious about the Iranian influence and popularity in the Muslim world. Huge sums of money is being invested to boost support for Saudi Arabia in the Muslim world. Iran is increasing its influence in Iraq by the day through the Shia political parties and militias. Iranian government, according to some commentators, is investing more money in Iraq than in Iran! Petrol, in Iran, a rich oil state, is rationed because the government, largely as a result of western embargos of course, has not invested sufficiently to strengthen the oil refinery capacity (same peoblem exists in Iraq).
The solution, as you quite rightly said, lies with Iraqi people themsleves and it is only them who can decide the future of their country and they would need to do that independently of foreign powers. The problem is that in the new world order, the post-9/11 world, none of our middle-eastern nations can act independently and those who claim they are, are hiding the truth.
The bloodshed in Iraq and the sectarian violence will sadly continue unless the Iraqis make a united front to combat this futile inter-communal conflict and reconcile all aggrieved segments of population. Let us not forget that Iraq has a complex social history and to unite all the fragments under one banner would require strong leadership and political will as well a charismatic and dynamic leader who could champion unity and peace. I don't see anyone of that calibre amongst the present Iraqi leadership, do you?
Posted Aug 18, 07 by shrshr2007

The Iraq's issue controlled by the political tendencies which hiding behind religion.
After the execution of President Saddam Hussein, wrote commenting at BBC site, so, they chosen me to speak alive through phone. I said that:
The Saddam's execution didn't mean executing him but to trigger the sedition between the different communities. Therefore, they chosen the execution time. The coming days we'll see more bloodshed and victims, also the emergence of other communities
which will lead to dividing and Iraq and the Iraqi people will be forced to accept it when they see that. That was what I said.
Now, did we see except this?
1) USA wants to divide Iraq.
2) Saudi Arabia (Abdol Allah) wants to keep the case as it is because the eastern area there is full of Shia.
3) Egypt (Mubarak) wants to keep the case as it is to fight the Muslim Brotherhood (Ikhwan) in Egypt.
So, As we see it, Iraq is under siege at home and abroad.
The solution will be by Iraqi people themselves.
Posted Aug 17, 07 by MizzTatchipen

Assalam-u-Alaikum,

I couldn't agre with you more sis. However, I also feel the need to add that all of the Bush regime, and his followers, such as Blair should be brought to justice and charged with war crimes amongst many other attrocities they have commited whilst abusing their power.

I've just been reading up on the days of Qiyamah, and I went cold when I read many of the things which were stated 1,400 years ago, which are now happening in our times! One of the main issues which left feeling rather strange was this:

IRAQ and SYRIA

Abu Nadhrah says: "We were sitting in the company of Jabir bin Abdullah (R.A.) when he said: 'Soon the people of IRAQ will neither receive any food (grain) nor any money.'" We asked, "Why would such a thing happen?" He replied, "Because of the non-Arabs." (i.e they will prevent food from going into Iraq, in the form of "sanctions" to this day.) He then said: "Soon the people of Shaam (SYRIA) will neither receive any money nor grain." We asked as to why this would happen. He replied: "Because of the Romans (christians)."

In each instance where there has been peace, it was told that the Christians would destroy that peace and create bloodshead and war. This has been recorded in history many times .. despite the fact that they tried to re-write history! Again we are whitnessing this same thing happening ... and yet they put the blaim on the Muslims and the Arab Coutries... which all links in with other signs of Qiyamah too!

Wassalam.
Posted Aug 17, 07 by baghdad2007

(1) All foreign trrops to withdraw from Iraq unconditionally;
(2) Iraqi people to decide the future of their country through holding independent elections;
(3) Re-nationalisation of the oil and petrochemical indistries;
(4) A UN peace-keeping force to be deployed post-withdrawal of foreign troops.





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